The Dispatch Moment | Interview: Steve Hayes

Skip to content We here at The Remnant are reluctant to invite low-brow media hacks like Steve Hayes on the show, but sometimes needs must. Steve joins Jonah Goldberg today for the annual State of The Dispatch podcast. Listen in to hear about Donald Trump’s legacy, inflation, Iran, the midterms, Trump’s chiefs of staff, the GOP’s future, blaming advisers, why Steve hates discounts, the Trump era’s half-life, social media, ethical business practices, the pivot to video, and not going full Bulwark. Show Notes: The Remnant is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a nonpartisan perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including the Saturday Ruminant, audio versions of all our articles and newsletters, and Jonah’s twice-weekly G-File—⁠click here⁠. Instructions on how to set up your members-only feed can be found here, and if you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Want to see more of The Dispatch in Google search? Add Us as a Preferred Source Jonah Goldberg is editor-in-chief and co-founder of The Dispatch, based in Washington, D.C. Prior to that, enormous lizards roamed the Earth. More immediately prior to that, Jonah spent two decades at National Review, where he was a senior editor, among other things. He is also a bestselling author, longtime columnist for the Los Angeles Times, commentator for CNN, and a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. When he is not writing the G-File or hosting The Remnant podcast, he finds real joy in family time, attending to his dogs and cat, and blaming Steve Hayes for various things. Steve Hayes is CEO and editor of The Dispatch, based in Annapolis, Maryland. Prior to co-founding the company in 2019, he worked at The Weekly Standard for 18 years, covering Washington, politics, and national security. Steve is the author of two New York Times bestsellers. He also worked as a contributor at CNN and Fox News, and currently serves as a political analyst at NBC News. When Steve is not focused on The Dispatch, he’s probably traveling with his family, grilling, or riding his mountain bike. The podcast transcription below was generated using artificial intelligence and may include occasional errors or misspellings. Music 0:04 [groaning] [drumming] Ladies and gentlemen, the... Music 0:16 Can I please have your attention? Can you dig it?. Jonah Goldberg 0:27 Greetings, dear listeners. This is Jonah Goldberg, host of The Remnant podcast, brought to you by The Dispatch and Dispatch Media. So, um, I gotta do a little housecleaning here. First, thanks to Kevin Williamson for subbing in for me for that vital midterms counterprogramming. Second of all, um, I gotta apologize to listeners. We tried to get a really good guest today. We worked pretty hard at it. I even-- I started just dropping Benjamins on the shoeshine guy, the security guard in my building, and just nobody could do it, so we had to scrape the bottom barrel. Interactive transcripts are available to Premium members. Join to follow along with the audio. Join Now More We Think You’d Like