'Recess Therapy' host Julian Shapiro-Barnum talks about his new book

Julian Shapiro-Barnum, known for his insightful podcast "Recess Therapy," dives into his new book, "How to Grow Up Without Becoming a Grown-Up," which offers unconventional advice on navigating adulthood. In an engaging discussion with NPR's A Martinez, Shapiro-Barnum shares his perspectives on balancing youthful spontaneity with the responsibilities of adult life. This book comes at a time when many are rethinking traditional life paths, making it a timely and thought-provoking read for those seeking a different approach to growing up.