Polling is unreliable, but we’re reporting this election season on what the betting markets show: Today in Ohio

CLEVELAND, Ohio - Time and again, traditional political polling has proved unreliable. People lie. We’re talking about experimenting with prediction markets in Ohio’s election on Today in Ohio.Listen online here.Editor Chris Quinn hosts our daily half-hour news podcast, with editorial board member Lisa Garvin, impact editor Leila Atassi and content director Laura Johnston.You’ve been sending Chris lots of thoughts and suggestions on our from-the-newsroom text account, in which he shares what we’re thinking about at cleveland.com. You can sign up here: https://joinsubtext.com/chrisquinn.Here’s what we’re asking about today:We long ago decided to stop reporting political horse race polls because they have become useless. Others still report them, but every Election Day, we see how poorly they predicted the outcome. What we are trying this year is to report on what the betting markets show, because those seem more accurate. Our first one published Monday. What did it show?Republicans think calling people socialists is the best way to stop opponents. How did that become a dirty trick campaign in an Akron race?What’s the latest way Sen. Bernie Moreno is proving his fealty to Donald Trump?We talked last week about Akron Children’s Hospital moving into greater Cleveland with its big property purchase in South Euclid. Turns out, it is making inroads on the West Side as well. Where?Is the city of Brook Park making unreasonable demands on the Haslams for on-site parking for the new stadium, or is it ensuring that neighborhoods will not be overrun by on-street parking on game days? What’s the latest in this dispute?The shenanigans by lawyers in the Greg Moore murder case could cause more interminable delays in seeking justice. But not is prosecutors have their way. What are they seeking?Speaking of betting, let’s move from politics to sports. What clued investigators into the betting case that brought down one of the Guardians greatest ever pitchers?The number of students classified for special education is up in Ohio, and that carries a cost. Where will the money come from to pay for the needs of these kids?Many years ago, we covered the case of a Cleveland Heights doctor who was ticketed by police for rollerblading. Readers loved her story. She died last month and was cutting edge until the end. What happened? From red scare to sales pitch: The cynical twist in Ohio’s Senate racePolls keep getting it wrong. Can people betting their own money do better?Three candidates, no plan to rebalance Ohio’s taxes — and more silence from RamaswamyWe have an Apple podcasts channel exclusively for this podcast. Subscribe here.Do you get your podcasts on Spotify? Find us here.RadioPublic is another popular podcast vehicle, and we are here.On PodParadise, find us here.And on PlayerFM, we are here.Chris (00:00.765)We’ve talked in all sorts of ways about how gambling has been bad for Ohio, but there may be one area where it could be helpful. First up, on Today in Ohio, it’s the news discussion podcast from Cleveland.com and the Plain Dealer. I’m Chris Quinn here with Lisa Garvin, Layla Atasi, and Laura Johnston. Laura, as you know, we long ago decided to stop reporting political horse race balls because they’re pretty much useless. They always seem to get it wrong.Election day always reveals that. What are we trying this year to report on about the betting markets having to do with politics? It’s an experiment. We’re running through election day.laura (00:43.054)We are looking at how markets like Calche and those are showing these races, but and it’s showing that Ohioans are putting money on Democrats. They’re giving Amy Acton a roughly 70% chance of winning the governor’s race right now, and Sherrod Brown about sixty percent chance of returning to the US Senate. So these are the things like polymarket, predicted. These a predicted apparently was very accurate at forecasting the twenty twenty four election results where we know thepolls that we had looked at, even though we didn’t report horse race polls at the time, were wildly off. So these markets let people put money on the candidate they believe will win a race. Each contract costs roughly the same number of cents as the candidate’s odds of victory. So a 60% chance of winning would cost 60 cents a piece. If they win, the contract pays a dollar. If it loses, the contract is worthless. So it’s not that different once from sports betting, which is why Ohio’s trying to crack down on these, but this is not sports betting.Chris (01:42.599)Well, we should point out when it says a seventy percent chance of her winning, it doesn’t mean that she’s up seventy thirty. It’s just saying that she would win, whether it’s by a half point or ten points. Whereas polling tries to give you what what the difference is between the candidates. The reason we like this is because it has proven pretty accurate just on who wins. That we’re we’re not getting into margins. but but the betterslaura (01:52.555)Right.Chris (02:11.879)Seem to have a better idea than the pollsters. I mean, long ago polls became useless because people lie to the polls. And and I actually they when it came to Republican races, they’re embarrassed to say they’re voting for Republicans like Trump, even though they were. And that’s why you can’t believe That’s why every time I see one, I just roll my eyes. We’ll do the occasional trend story about what they say, but they’re not useful and they mislead voters into what’s going on. I’m kind of excited.laura (02:16.93)Mm-hmm.Chris (02:41.949)That this may be a new way to to see how races are going.laura (02:47.384)Yeah, the prediction, the polling is troublesome because if people think, they’re gonna win, they don’t need my vote, or they’re gonna lose, it doesn’t matter if I vote anyway, right? They could actually change people’s behavior. And I hope the prediction markets don’t do that here, because it’s just people they believe that this is going to happen. They’re trying to predict the future and make some money on it. So yeah, it’s really interesting. It’s a completely new way to look at elections.Chris (03:13.127)And we’re going to track it twice a week through election day. So the first story published yesterday, another one are published Thursday or Friday, and then we’ll keep going. It’ll be interesting to see if it changes over time. if this does prove accurate, it’s something that we’ll make sure to employ more fully in future elections. Our chief political writer, Jeremy Pelzer, is taking a look at them. You’re listening to Today in Ohio.laura (03:24.642)Mm-hmm.Chris (03:39.409)Republicans think calling people socialists is the best way to stop opponents. How did that become a dirty trick in an Ohio race, Leila? Sorry, go ahead.Leila (03:47.387)Well this thisI’m sorry. This, Chris, this looks like a a pretty brazen attempt to manipulate voters by promoting a candidate who could siphon votes away from Democrat Sherid Brown. And and the candidate himself wants nothing to do with it. It’s Greg Levy. He’s an Akron veteran and a community organizer who’s running for the Senate as an openly socialist third-party candidate. He’s raised about $80,000 for his campaign, but suddenly.Somebody else has spent more than $181,000 sending out glossy mailers promoting him with slogans like join the revolution and send a worker to the Senate. And reporter Anna Staver traced that spending to this mysterious political committee called Enough Promises Ohio, which was formed just last week. The committee doesn’t reveal much about who’s behind it, but its printing vendor shares an address.With a Republican political operation in South Carolina. So if you follow the connections further, you get to firms with ties to Trump’s main super PAC and Bernie Moreno’s 2024 Senate campaign. Now, none of that definitively proves that Republicans are behind these mailers, but the apparent strategy seems to be make this socialist candidate look appealing to progressive voters who might otherwise support Sherrod Brown.In a close election, peeling off even a small percentage of those votes could help the Republican candidate win. And Levy is furious. He says the mailers are deceptive, that they caricature him and the communities he represents, and that he’s he’s considering legal action. So it’s very ironic and very remarkable. Republicans have spent years trying to scare voters away from Democrats by calling them socialists.Leila (05:43.367)And now someone with connections to Republican political operatives appears to be spending a small fortune really trying to convince voters to support an actual socialist.Chris (05:53.597)Well, you have seen though across the nation, more and more Americans saying, I’m not against socialism. I I’m tired of the wealthy getting all the the assets in this country. We used to be a country that took care of each other. And so you’re seeing more and more, particularly younger people, saying, That’s not the dirty word you think it is. I guess Republicans have seen those polls and they’re trying now to appeal to that crowd. It’s despicable.The Republicans are this election cycle are bereft. They have no popularity. People hate them. They hate Trump. They hate what’s gone on with this country the last two years. And they they’re reprehensible because of what their messaging is. Look no further than Bernie Moreno, the most reprehensible elected official we’ve ever seen in Ohio. We’ll be talking about him in a minute. I it’s ridiculous that they would do this to this guy. It’s cruel, it’s mean, it’s stupid.And I guess the only way to combat it is to shine as bright a light on it as we can. They’re trying to use the growing American sentiment for socialism against Democrats that are much more leaning in that way than they are as they take care of their wealthy friends.Leila (07:07.313)And it’s such a cynical and dishonest maneuver that that these people behind these mailers are not necessarily trying to persuade voters to support a candidate that they believe in. They’re trying to exploit voters’ beliefs to produce an outcome that those voters might actually oppose in the bigger picture. I mean, we we we talk so much about misinformation in elections, but this is another level of manipulation.Chris (07:29.245)Yeah.Leila (07:36.579)using perfectly legitimate political views as bait to trick people into voting against their own interests. That’s really what’s happening. I this is astounding. This made my head spin.Chris (07:47.677)We should do. We’ll have to do one of our fact check videos on this one. You’re listening to today in Ohio. All right, Lisa, what’s the latest way? Senator Bernie Moreno is proving his sycophancy to Donald Trump.Lisa (08:01.732)So, in a letter Saturday to FCC Chair Brendan Carr, Moreno is demanding a probe into ABC News over an October 7th story that was later corrected and republished. The story was about 1789 Capital, which is where Donald Trump Jr. is a partner, and it talked about the ties between 1789 and Andorral Industries, which is a defense contractor. Moreno says the article had fragrant.Flagrant lies that were personal to Ohio because of Andorral’s plans to build a $900 million factory in Pickaway County. He said the reporting was done to damage Andorrill’s reputation and by extension the livelihood of all Ohioans. So the original headline said that Trump’s son’s investments won billions in Pentagon contracts since Trump’s reelection.the article also said that 1789 Capital acquired a major stake in Andorrill in two twenty twenty twenty-five. But the revised version of the story published with corrections on the 9th of October, with an editor’s note that said the original contained errors in certain c company investments, government contracts, and chronologies. And they say that 1789 Capital invested $50 million in Andoril, which they said was a small stake.In that $60 billion company. Also, a 1789 spokesman said that Donald Trump Jr. can’t decide on investments anyway.Chris (09:35.387)All right. Let but let’s put this in perspective. Right. Pete Hegseth is going to stage a public streamed execution of somebody in the military. And and Donald Trump’s okay with that. And we’ve heard nothing from Bernie Moreno on behalf of all the whole Ohioans who are outraged by it. I’m sure hearing from them this is the mark of lack of civility. It’s a mark of authoritarian government. Nothing from Bernie Moreno on that.Donald Trump made a deal with Vladimir Putin, our enemy, really, to get cheaper diesel. To the outrage of Republicans and Democrats in this country and pretty much the rest of the world. Bernie Moreno, silent on that. What’s he get excited about? Something that attacks Donald Trump’s family. This guy does not represent Ohio. Not once has he represented Ohio. He represents Donald Trump. It’s gross.That that’s who we have for a US senator.Lisa (10:30.768)Yeah. Yeah, I always think of him in that kid in the classroom raising it hand hand, going, Teacher, pick me. pick me. You know, and he said that, you know, that the ABC removed the original story with no explanation and only republished it after sustained criticism. And he says, quote, You’d expect such a comically botched cover-up in Soviet Russia, not the USA. And he wants the FCC to formally look into what he says is a political hit job.Chris (10:37.853)Yeah.Chris (10:59.281)He brings up Russia, but he does nothing about the deal the president is making with Vladimir Putin that puts Ukraine in such bad shape. This is he is horrendous. You want to speak up about Russia in American politics right now? Criticize Donald Trump for making an indefensible deal. Bernie Moreno, I swear, if he were on the ballot today, he would be crushed by anybody who runs against him. I’ve never seen somebody who is so despised.Lisa (11:01.21)Right.Chris (11:28.753)By his constituents because he does nothing for them. They can’t reach him, he’s not available, and he doesn’t represent their interests. This is another example. This is his priority over all the other things that affect us. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. We talked last week about Akron Children’s Hospital moving into Greater Cleveland with its big property purchase in South Euclid. Turns out it’s making inroads on the west side as well. Where, Laura?laura (11:56.407)Rocky River, my town. I saw the construction fencing on Sunday on Center Ridge Road and it’s pretty wide, goes across a bunch of businesses, and I was like, I didn’t know anything was going in there, what’s going on? Asked around, turned out it’s children’s. So they told the hot the Rocky River Plan Commission in May that the facility is going to include specialty clinics, behavioral health services, primary care, a pharmacy, and other services. Also a pediatric emergency apartment open 24 hours a day.But now that children’s saying their plans have changed, but they refuse to tell reporter Julie Washington anything Monday about how that’s changed. So we couldn’t tell you exactly what’s going in. What’s ironic is actually maybe two blocks west from there is a new urgent care. So I feel like Center Ridge Road is gonna be this hospital hotspot.Chris (12:47.601)It’s amazing how much Akron Children’s is taking on the Cleveland market where we have pretty good children’s hospitals to begin with. And it gets back to what we talked about last week with the partnership that has made with another company to build up some cash.laura (13:02.04)Mm-hmm.Right. Yeah, they may so children’s bought that Notre Dame College, forty eight acre campus. They’re going to have a newly constructed medical facility and use it for some other development. But this is after they opened a pediatrics practice in Mayfield Heights at its Beechwood Health Center. So clearly this is a multi pronged plan that they have put in place. And you know, Akron Children’s has a good reputation. It’s been there a long time in Akron. That’s you know, I’ve I was there as a kid.It it’s just what is the need for it? when I don’t know. It it’s like why it’s like why I asked myself why there are like these big outpatient centers b in Brexville and Broadview Heights, one’s Metro and one’s like across the the highway from each other. It’s like we don’t need duplication of services when healthcare is so expensive.Chris (13:54.323)Right, you’re listening to today in Ohio. Is the city of Brook Park making unreasonable demands of the Haslums for on site parking at the New Brown Stadium? Or is it ensuring that neighborhoods will not be overrun by on street parking on game days? Layla, what’s the latest in the dispute over parking?Leila (15:15.297) Well, the inter interesting thing, Chris, is that Brook Park’s own mayor seems to be moving closer to the Browns position on this. This dispute is over how much parking the Haslums should have to provide on the actual stadium property. Back in March, Brook Park’s Planning Commission demanded 13,000 on-site spaces because members were worried about fans flooding surrounding neighborhoods.And parking on residential streets and creating safety problems for pedestrians. But the Browns and their development partner are pushing back on that. They’re they’re going before the Planning Commission again this week with a revised proposal that would provide about 10,000 parking spaces when the stadium opens in 2029, eventually dropping to 8,000 as the rest of the property gets developed. And their argument is that requiring 13,000 parking spaces.Would essentially wipe out about 60% of the land that they’ve set aside for the nearly billion dollar mixed-use development. That’s the hotels and the restaurants and the retail apartments, all offices, all the things that are supposed to turn this into a year-round destination rather than just a football stadium that’s surrounded by asphalt. Interestingly, an independent traffic study by Nowaka actually found that fewer on-site parking spaces.could improve traffic flow at some nearby intersections, although it would mean more people walking to the stadium. And Brooke Po Brook Park mayor Ed Orca seems to recognize that. He says there’s plenty of potential parking on nearby commercial and industrial property. The city is pursuing a pedestrian bridge over Engle Road to help people get to the stadium safely. And he’s working on a residential parking permit system to keep fans from taking over neighborhood streets.He also wants to prevent homeowners from turning their yards into makeshift paid parking lots. So the question is whether the city really needs to insist on 13,000 spaces when there may be better ways to manage parking and traffic. Because if the goal is to create an entire entertainment district around the stadium, it doesn’t seem to make sense to sacrifice most of that development just to accommodate cars on a handful of game days.Leila (17:37.007)And I think that’s what the Planning Commission will have to wrestle with this week.Chris (17:40.115)It’s interesting to try and do this with a long term view. We have no idea what transportation patterns will be in twenty years. What if in twenty years we have driverless cars everywhere that that will take people to the game? You know, a Uber buy up you know, multiplied by ten. That they’re they’re gonna charge people an arm and a leg to park out there. I I wouldn’t be surprised the parking spaces didn’t get up to two hundred bucks within ten, fifteen years.So you might want cheaper transportation that that would reduce the need for for parking. I also suspect that if there was a problem with parking out there, that they saw a profit motive on, they’d put up a garage to get the money. I’m not sure that that the Haslums are wrong here, that th this might work better if you go with the fewer spaces. ItCertainly will look better if you have you don’t have miles of parking lot.Leila (18:39.031)Right. I I mean, I got strong feelings about this whole project, which I’ve talked about for months and months, but we we are talking about a massive investment that’s supposed to transform this area into a destination. And if you sacrifice sixty percent of that development to build these to build parking lots, it just seems like you’re you’re undermining the economic benefits that were supposed to justify the stadium in the first place. So I don’t know.the city absolutely has an obligation to protect its neighborhoods, but that doesn’t mean it should force them to build a sea of asphalt. It you know, they should hold them accountable for a comprehensive transportation plan that actually works, not not undermine the entire project.Chris (19:25.937)Which they seem to have presented. That’s why Nauakis seems to be moving to their side. So it’s I part of this is Brooke Park’s this tiny bird that really doesn’t have the expertise for this kind of thing. That’s the difference between building in in the city of Cleveland and building it in a tiny suburb. But maybe the this will resolve itself the way it should. You’re listening to today in Ohio.Leila (19:30.309)Yeah.Chris (19:49.201)The shenanigans, and I mean shenanigans, by lawyers in the Greg Moore murder case could cause more interminable delays in seeking justice. But not if prosecutors have their way. What are they now seeking, Lisa?Lisa (20:02.384)Yeah, prosecutor Kevin Philliot Trout wants a January trial date for accused murderer Gregory Moore and accused him of playing an attorney shell game and changing lawyers right before his September fourteenth trial date. So Moore, as we know, was charged in the twenty thirteenth death of his client Eliza Sherman of Beechwood, who was killed outside his downtown law office. So two of Moore’s attorneys withdrew. One of them, Christopher Busio, told usat Cleveland.com that his departure was mutual. And he said, if I stayed, it would have been fast tracked to trial. So Philia Trout says every defendant has the right to the counsel of their choice and time to prepare. But when it’s made to specifically delay proceedings, the law must take account. So Moore’s new attorneys are Joseph and Megan Patatucci. They previously represented Moore at the eighthDistrict Appeals Court where they tried to disqualify the prosecutor on his case and dismiss the case for double jeopardy.Chris (21:03.015)This is an obscenity in a court proceeding. The lawyer admitted, I’m getting out because if a new lawyer comes in, they’ll have to be given lots of time to prepare. But if I stay, I’ll get rushed in. That is clearly manipulating the process. And the the irony is we’ve noted before, this is a trial about a guy who’s accused of murdering his client because he wasn’t prepared for trial. He has a history of doing crazy things like calling in bomb threats.Lisa (21:04.828)Mm.Lisa (21:27.439)Mm-hmm.Chris (21:32.349)To s to get out of showing up for court because he’s not prepared. That’s what he is famous for, is delaying his proceedings with crime. And now his lawyers are delaying proceedings with sleazy imaginations. I hope the judge lowers the boom and says, Nope, nope, nope. You’re going to trial in January. No more delays by playing these games. Remember, his first lawyer dropped out.And then they had a week of delay style hearings and when those failed, he dropped out and it immediately postponed the trial, which was supposed to start within a day or two.Lisa (21:59.438)Mm-hmm.Mm-hmm.Lisa (22:10.192)I mean it’s it’s pretty patently obvious to anyone who’s been following Moore in the cases that this is right this is his method of operation. Delay, delay, delay. And let’s you know, this case has been open since twenty thirteen, thirteen years. The Sherman family has been waiting for justice.Chris (22:27.173)The judge should say no, absolutely not. You’re not gonna play this game in my court. We’re going to trial. You’re listening to today in Ohio. Let’s get back to betting, but not on politics. Let’s talk about it in sports. Laura, what clued investigators into the betting case that brought down one of the Guardian’s greatest ever pitchers?laura (22:48.174)So this was distinctive betting patterns. There were five betters who wagered big on pitches that were thrown by pitchers Emmanuel Classe and Louis Ortiz. And they won more often on their big wagers than on smaller ones or on any other types of bets. So there were two pitches during the 2025 season that were really far outside the strike zone. They allowed those betters to win thousands of dollars on wagers tied to the specific pitches. The betting platforms themselves flagged the wagers. Ortiz was suspended.And then classe A was suspended shortly after. That led to the investigation, those pitch-rigging charges. And one of the betters was closely associated with class A. He placed wagers on his pitches about 200 times and accessed sports betting platforms from Classe’s home on 30 dates, according to prosecutors. So this is just looking at very specific bets that the bets that they made on these two pitchers’ pitches were different.than bets they made in other cases.Chris (23:50.503)I know, but how stupid do you have to be to think you can do that and not be noticed? This seems like a big red flag. Look at me, look at me, I’m cheating. I mean and of course they’re going to launch an investigation. This stinks to the high heavens. Great story though.laura (24:05.558)It does. Yeah, absolutely. And very timely with the Guardians run. Sad to see this that that sports betting has changed sports so much. But yeah, it it just it it’s it’s the antithesis of the great American game, right? Cheating.Chris (24:23.579)I would think too that with the power of artificial intelligence, you can constantly be analyzing betting patterns and finding anomalies regularly so that that the cheaters are going to get caught. I I think it would be hard today to to run a successful cheating scheme in any kind of scale for the long term without getting caught.laura (24:34.369)Yeah.laura (24:46.68)That’s a good point. So here’s just one example. So one better plays twenty-six wages on pitches involving Ortiz, all for less than three hundred and eighty dollars. But on the two pitches that prosecutors say were rigged, he plays five wagers of more than a thousand dollars and won all five. So just just just look at those numbers. So he won fifty three thousand dollars.Chris (25:02.851)Yeah.Chris (25:08.773)All right. You’re listening to today in Ohio. The number of students classified for special education is up in Ohio and that carries a cost. Where will the money come from to pay for the needs of these kids, Layla?Leila (25:22.021)Well, right now the answer is that local school districts are picking up much of that tab. And that’s that’s putting an incr an increased pressure on their budgets and and ultimately on us taxpayers. About seventeen percent of Ohio’s public school students now receive special education services, and that number has been climbing. Some of that is is really good news. We’re getting better at identifying learning disabilities. We’re screening kids for dyslexia and recognizing developmental delays earlier.And medical advances mean more kids with complex disabilities are surviving and reaching school age. So that’s all good. But all of those kids are entitled to an education that meets their needs. And those services can be expensive. And we’re talking about specialized teachers and therapists and individu individualized instruction. So two Republican state lawmakers have introduced a bill.That would require Ohio to pick up additional special education costs once a district exhausts the initial state funding allocated for a student. Right now, districts have to apply for that extra money. And they’re often left covering substantial costs themselves. Federal government has long had a goal of covering 40% of special education costs, but it’s currently paying only about 10%, according to the Ohio School Boards Association.So states and local districts are really left filling that enormous gap. And public schools are required to serve students with disabilities while private schools can actually be more selective about which students they accept. So that’s important to remember as Ohio spends roughly a billion dollars on its private school voucher system. The legislation would shift more of the financial responsibility to the state, but it doesn’t identify a new revenue source or put a price tag on the additional funding.And the bill hasn’t been signed assigned to a committee yet, with the legislative session ending in December. So that’s where we’re at.Chris (27:21.509)Well, with any luck, we will have a change of government in January that starts to take a closer look at what’s going on with the way we spend money in education. I know how expensive special education is. My wife was a special education teacher for her entire career and it’s very specialized. It’s great because it helps kids get on their way. It it really does make them move along in a way they they wouldn’t in a bigger classroom, but it is expensive.Leila (27:51.151)Yeah. I mean it’s terrific that we’re identifying kids who need help and get getting them the help that they need, but identifying those needs creates the responsibility to meet them. And when the state and the federal governments don’t provide enough funding, that that responsibility gets pushed onto local school districts and and taxpayers and the voucher system is is undermining our ability to meet meet that need.Chris (28:13.371)Yeah, we gotta get that system in front of voters. They would stop it immediately. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. Many years ago, we covered the case of a Cleveland Heights doctor who was ticketed by police for rollerblading. Readers loved her story. She died last month and was cutting edge until the end. Lisa, what happened?Lisa (28:32.7)Yeah, we’re talking about 77-year-old Joy Marshall of Cleveland Heights, who was a doctor and a public health advocate. She died October third after sustaining injuries from an e-bicycle accident. Her final days were spent at the hospice on the lake. So she was in the plane dealer many times over the years. She was director of the Cleveland Free Clinic. She was an activist for accessible health care.underprivileged people and promoted an active lifestyle. And she grew up attending anti-war and pro-civil rights protests with her mom. And you know, and she encourages the same activism in her own daughters. She also wrote op-eds for the plane dealer, including one in 2001 that urged then Mayor Jane Campbell to focus on Cleveland’s public health department. She loved cycling. She was a very active woman. She loved rollerblading and being outdoors.As you said, she was cited by Cleveland Heights police in 2001 for rollerblading down Cedar Road. They said that she was using a toy vehicle in the street. And she said, This is the way I get to work. She was found guilty. She did pay $75 in court costs in municipal court, but the case did make national news.So unfortunately, yeah, she was riding on Edge Hill Road back in October or late September while she was returning from a friend’s dinner and witnesses say she apparently hit an animal.Chris (29:55.611)Man, so sad. All right. You’re listening to today in Ohio. That’s it for our Tuesday episode. Thanks, Lisa. Thanks, Layla. Thanks, Laura. Thank you for being with us. We’ll be back Wednesday talking about the news.Lisa (29:56.965)Really sad.