Home News Sport Weather iPlayer Sounds Bitesize CBeebies CBBC Food Home News Sport Business Technology Health Culture Arts Travel Earth Audio Video Live Use BBC.com or the new BBC App to listen to BBC podcasts, Radio 4 and the World Service outside the UK.Find out how to listen to other BBC stationsEpisode detailsRadio 5 Live,·23 Sep 2026,·51 minsAvailable for 29 daysMark Chapman is joined by Guillem Balague and Rafa Benitez to tell the story of how Spain found the formula to keep reproducing success. The panel examines how Spain established that framework, the special relationship with the Barcelona academy and the Basque influence. Jordi Gratacos, International Director of Academies between 2009-11 and 2016-20 drops by to talk the footballing success of the Barcelona way. Plus former Chelsea captain and Spain international Cesar Azpilicueta talks identity of the Spanish national team. TIMECODES: 02:10 Origins with Guillem 10:00 Student of football 15:40 Jordi Gratacos on Barca 28:50 Basque influence & tree trunk throwing! 38:50 Cesar Azpilicueta 45:10 Spain style 49:40 Divisions amongst some fans?Programme WebsiteMore episodes
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