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Home News Sport Weather iPlayer Sounds Bitesize CBeebies CBBC Food Home News Sport Business Technology Health Culture Arts Travel Earth Audio Video Live Use BBC.com or the new BBC App to listen to BBC podcasts, Radio 4 and the World Service outside the UK.Find out how to listen to other BBC stationsEpisode detailsRadio 5 Live,·15 Oct 2026,·35 minsAvailable for over a yearRick & Lloyd are back! And by popular(ish) demand. They catch up for the first time since the World Cup and look back on Man City's first defeat since the charges. Plus, Lloyd has a novel suggestion for Man City’s punishment and Adam Crafton explains how PSG’s journey in France has so many similarities – and differences – with Manchester City’s. There’s also time to look at Arsène Wenger’s mooted bid to become FIFA president – rumoured by everyone but the great man himself. Rick and Lloyd also find the perfect analogy for Lisandro Martínez’s controversial post-match interview on Tuesday night. TIMECODES: 0:00 - Rick & Lloyd are back! 4:10 - Wait, Man City have been found guilty? 6:54 - Man City 2-4 PSG 9:30 - Mistakes from Gianluigi Donnarumma 11:00 - Man City players in the wild 13:02 - The geopolitical backdrop behind this game 16:30 - Luis Enrique states his support for Man City 18:30 - The state of club ownership in English football 26:40 - Is Arsène Wenger a realistic option to replace Gianni Infantino as FIFA President? 29:44 - Lisandro Martinez’s fiery comments 31:33 - The answer to how much Man City’s malpractice trophies weighProgramme WebsiteMore episodes